2015 Junior Olympic Fencing Championships
Junior Team Women's Foil
Saturday, February 14, 2015 - 1:00 PM
Last Updated: 2/16/2015 - 9:51 AM
Junior Team Women's Foil
Saturday, February 14, 2015 - 1:00 PM
Last Updated: 2/16/2015 - 9:51 AM
Round #1 - DE
Round Seeding
| Seed | Name | Points | Members | Club(s) | Division | Country | Status |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | FAW | 2144 | BINDER, Sylvie - A14 / 10, MAGERAS, Finnula - A14 / 32, PETERS, Olympia - C14, CARMINUCCI, Joanne - B13 / 55 | FAW | West-Rock | USA | |
| 2 | Gutkovskiy Fencing Academy 1 | 1880 | CHI, Cathy (Yucong) (Yucong) - B14, GETS, Jessica - B14 / 42, LEE, Anna - C14, POPKIN, Naomi - A14 / 41 | GUTKOVSKIY | New Jersey | USA | |
| 3 | NWFC | 1844 | ABTIN, Aryana - B15 / 48, HAMBLETON, Nina - C14, LAMPSON, Dolly - C14, SUMMERS, Mariah - A14 / 29 | NWFC | Oregon | USA | |
| 4 | SFFC | 1812 | FERDON, Danielle - A14 / 11, HERMAN, Miya - B14, LUONG, Paige - C14, MARINELLI, Ever - C15 | SANFRANFC | Northern CA | USA | |
| 5 | Premier Fencing Club | 1650 | GUO, Kaitlyn - B14, SUN, Laura - C15, TIEU, Elizabeth - E14, TIEU, May - B15 / 73 | PREMIERFC | New Jersey | USA | |
| 6 | CFA Team | 1640 | JIA, Jennifer - C14, MOORE, Allison - C15, NOGUCHI, Julia - A14 / 61, TIAN, Tiffany - C14 | CFA (CA) | Central CA | USA | |
| 7 | Gutkovskiy Fencing Academy 2 | 1400 | KASI, Anisha - D14, KOO, Haley - C15, LO, Ashley - C15, PARRIS, Briana - C14 | GUTKOVSKIY | New Jersey | USA | |
| 8 | Richmond Fencing Club | 1290 | BOWMAN, Artemis - B15, MAURER, Bridgette (Brie) - C14, SANDERS, Shea - E14 | RCHMOND | Virginia | USA | |
| 9 | Rochester Fencing Club | 1220 | KIRIAKIDI, Lyubov - B13 / 66, ROSS, Megan - E14, URBAN-SPILLANE, Allison - D14 | RCHSTER | Western NY | USA | |
| 10 | Mission | 820 | OBEDIN, Lara - E14, O'BRIEN, Sandra - U, ZHANG, Angela - C14 | MISSION F.C. | Long Island | USA | |
| 11 | Wallingford-Swarthmore Panthers Fencing Club | 300 | RANSON, Emily - U, WARD, Ann - U, WILSON, Emily - U | PANTHERS | Philadelphia | USA | |
| 12 | Hills Women's Foil | 300 | ABBOTT, Samantha - U, ALPY, Alexandria - U, BROMBERG, Ilana - U, CRAMER, Monica - U | H3 | Long Island | USA |
Round Scores
| Table of 16 | Table of 8 | Semi-Finals | Finals | |
| (1) FAW | ||||
| FAW / West-Rock / USA | (1) FAW | |||
| (16) -BYE- | ||||
| (1) FAW | ||||
| (9) Rochester Fencing Club | 45 - 25 [Match Details] |
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| RCHSTER / Western NY / USA | (9) Rochester Fencing Club | |||
| (8) Richmond Fencing Club | 45 - 29 [Match Details] |
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| RCHMOND / Virginia / USA | (1) FAW | |||
| (5) Premier Fencing Club | 45 - 15 [Match Details] |
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| PREMIERFC / New Jersey / USA | (5) Premier Fencing Club | |||
| (12) Hills Women's Foil | 45 - 12 [Match Details] |
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| H3 / Long Island / USA | (4) SFFC | |||
| (13) -BYE- | 45 - 30 [Match Details] |
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| (4) SFFC | ||||
| (4) SFFC | ||||
| SANFRANFC / Northern CA / USA | (1) FAW | |||
| (3) NWFC | 45 - 34 [Match Details] |
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| NWFC / Oregon / USA | (3) NWFC | |||
| (14) -BYE- | ||||
| (3) NWFC | ||||
| (11) Wallingford-Swarthmore Panthers Fencing Club | 35 - 29 [Match Details] |
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| PANTHERS / Philadelphia / USA | (6) CFA Team | |||
| (6) CFA Team | 45 - 6 [Match Details] |
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| CFA (CA) / Central CA / USA | (3) NWFC | |||
| (7) Gutkovskiy Fencing Academy 2 | 45 - 24 [Match Details] |
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| GUTKOVSKIY / New Jersey / USA | (7) Gutkovskiy Fencing Academy 2 | |||
| (10) Mission | 45 - 21 [Match Details] |
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| MISSION F.C. / Long Island / USA | (2) Gutkovskiy Fencing Academy 1 | |||
| (15) -BYE- | 40 - 31 [Match Details] |
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| (2) Gutkovskiy Fencing Academy 1 | ||||
| (2) Gutkovskiy Fencing Academy 1 | ||||
| GUTKOVSKIY / New Jersey / USA |
| Fence-off for Third | |
| (4) SFFC | |
| SANFRANFC / Northern CA / USA | (4) SFFC |
| (2) Gutkovskiy Fencing Academy 1 | 45 - 39 [Match Details] |
| GUTKOVSKIY / New Jersey / USA |
Table of 16, bout #2 of 8
| # | Richmond Fencing Club | TS | Score | Score | TS | Rochester Fencing Club | # |
| 3 | BOWMAN, Artemis | 3 | 3 | 1 | 1 | URBAN-SPILLANE, Allison | 6 |
| 1 | SANDERS, Shea | 5 | 8 | 9 | 8 | KIRIAKIDI, Lyubov S. | 5 |
| 2 | MAURER, Bridgette (Brie) C. | 6 | 14 | 15 | 6 | ROSS, Megan N. | 4 |
| 1 | SANDERS, Shea | 2 | 16 | 19 | 4 | URBAN-SPILLANE, Allison | 6 |
| 3 | BOWMAN, Artemis | 2 | 18 | 25 | 6 | ROSS, Megan N. | 4 |
| 2 | MAURER, Bridgette (Brie) C. | 4 | 22 | 30 | 5 | KIRIAKIDI, Lyubov S. | 5 |
| 1 | SANDERS, Shea | 3 | 25 | 34 | 4 | ROSS, Megan N. | 4 |
| 2 | MAURER, Bridgette (Brie) C. | 2 | 27 | 40 | 6 | URBAN-SPILLANE, Allison | 6 |
| 3 | BOWMAN, Artemis | 2 | 29 | 45 | 5 | KIRIAKIDI, Lyubov S. | 5 |
| D29 | V45 |
Ref:
BONTEMS, Pierre-Olivier
CAN
Ref: DELGADO, Fernando Illinois
Ref: DELGADO, Fernando Illinois
Table of 16, bout #3 of 8
| # | Hills Women's Foil | TS | Score | Score | TS | Premier Fencing Club | # |
| 6 | CRAMER, Monica M. | 0 | 0 | 5 | 5 | TIEU, May L. | 3 |
| 5 | BROMBERG, Ilana S. | 0 | 0 | 10 | 5 | GUO, Kaitlyn S. | 1 |
| 4 | ABBOTT, Samantha L. | 3 | 3 | 15 | 5 | SUN, Laura C. | 2 |
| 6 | CRAMER, Monica M. | 3 | 6 | 20 | 5 | GUO, Kaitlyn S. | 1 |
| 4 | ABBOTT, Samantha L. | 1 | 7 | 25 | 5 | TIEU, May L. | 3 |
| 5 | BROMBERG, Ilana S. | 2 | 9 | 30 | 5 | SUN, Laura C. | 2 |
| 4 | ABBOTT, Samantha L. | 1 | 10 | 35 | 5 | GUO, Kaitlyn S. | 1 |
| 6 | CRAMER, Monica M. | 1 | 11 | 40 | 5 | SUN, Laura C. | 2 |
| 5 | BROMBERG, Ilana S. | 1 | 12 | 45 | 5 | TIEU, Elizabeth | R |
| D12 | V45 |
Ref:
CHANG, Jason
Central CA
Ref: LI, Wei New England
Ref: LI, Wei New England
Table of 16, bout #6 of 8
| # | CFA Team | TS | Score | Score | TS | Wallingford-Swarthmore Panthers Fencing Club | # |
| 3 | TIAN, Tiffany | 5 | 5 | 1 | 1 | WARD, Ann K. | 6 |
| 1 | JIA, Jennifer | 5 | 10 | 1 | 0 | WILSON, Emily A. | 5 |
| 2 | MOORE, Allison | 5 | 15 | 1 | 0 | RANSON, Emily J. | 4 |
| 1 | JIA, Jennifer | 5 | 20 | 1 | 0 | WARD, Ann K. | 6 |
| 3 | TIAN, Tiffany | 5 | 25 | 2 | 1 | RANSON, Emily J. | 4 |
| 2 | MOORE, Allison | 5 | 30 | 4 | 2 | WILSON, Emily A. | 5 |
| 1 | JIA, Jennifer | 5 | 35 | 4 | 0 | RANSON, Emily J. | 4 |
| R | NOGUCHI, Julia C. | 5 | 40 | 5 | 1 | WARD, Ann K. | 6 |
| 3 | TIAN, Tiffany | 5 | 45 | 6 | 1 | WILSON, Emily A. | 5 |
| V45 | D6 |
Ref:
DELAP, Rylan
Alabama
Ref: GASPARIN, Janos North TX
Ref: GASPARIN, Janos North TX
Table of 16, bout #7 of 8
| # | Mission | TS | Score | Score | TS | Gutkovskiy Fencing Academy 2 | # |
| 6 | OBEDIN, Lara | 3 | 3 | 4 | 4 | KOO, Haley B. | 3 |
| 5 | ZHANG, Angela J. | 7 | 10 | 6 | 2 | KASI, Anisha | 1 |
| 4 | O'BRIEN, Sandra L. | 0 | 10 | 13 | 7 | PARRIS, Briana C. | 2 |
| 6 | OBEDIN, Lara | 3 | 13 | 15 | 2 | KASI, Anisha | 1 |
| 4 | O'BRIEN, Sandra L. | 2 | 15 | 25 | 10 | KOO, Haley B. | 3 |
| 5 | ZHANG, Angela J. | 2 | 17 | 30 | 5 | PARRIS, Briana C. | 2 |
| 4 | O'BRIEN, Sandra L. | 0 | 17 | 35 | 5 | LO, Ashley | R |
| 6 | OBEDIN, Lara | 0 | 17 | 40 | 5 | PARRIS, Briana C. | 2 |
| 5 | ZHANG, Angela J. | 4 | 21 | 45 | 5 | KOO, Haley B. | 3 |
| D21 | V45 |
Ref:
BALOG, Marcus
Virginia
Ref: DILWORTH, Greg F.A. DENV. / Colorado / USA
Ref: DILWORTH, Greg F.A. DENV. / Colorado / USA
Table of 8, bout #1 of 4
| # | Rochester Fencing Club | TS | Score | Score | TS | FAW | # |
| 6 | URBAN-SPILLANE, Allison | 0 | 0 | 2 | 2 | PETERS, Olympia | 3 |
| 5 | KIRIAKIDI, Lyubov S. | 2 | 2 | 10 | 8 | CARMINUCCI, Joanne M. | 1 |
| 4 | ROSS, Megan N. | 0 | 2 | 15 | 5 | MAGERAS, Finnula | 2 |
| 6 | URBAN-SPILLANE, Allison | 1 | 3 | 20 | 5 | CARMINUCCI, Joanne M. | 1 |
| 4 | ROSS, Megan N. | 7 | 10 | 23 | 3 | PETERS, Olympia | 3 |
| 5 | KIRIAKIDI, Lyubov S. | 4 | 14 | 30 | 7 | MAGERAS, Finnula | 2 |
| 4 | ROSS, Megan N. | 4 | 18 | 34 | 4 | CARMINUCCI, Joanne M. | 1 |
| 6 | URBAN-SPILLANE, Allison | 1 | 19 | 40 | 6 | MAGERAS, Finnula | 2 |
| 5 | KIRIAKIDI, Lyubov S. | 6 | 25 | 45 | 5 | BINDER, Sylvie A. | R |
| D25 | V45 |
Ref:
GRITSAEV, Sergei
Utah-S.Idaho
Ref: BONTEMS, Pierre-Olivier CAN
Ref: BONTEMS, Pierre-Olivier CAN
Table of 8, bout #2 of 4
| # | SFFC | TS | Score | Score | TS | Premier Fencing Club | # |
| 3 | FERDON, Danielle V. | 5 | 5 | 2 | 2 | GUO, Kaitlyn S. | 6 |
| 1 | MARINELLI, Ever | 5 | 10 | 5 | 3 | TIEU, May L. | 5 |
| 2 | LUONG, Paige K. | 0 | 10 | 7 | 2 | SUN, Laura C. | 4 |
| 1 | MARINELLI, Ever | 5 | 15 | 8 | 1 | GUO, Kaitlyn S. | 6 |
| 3 | FERDON, Danielle V. | 8 | 23 | 11 | 3 | SUN, Laura C. | 4 |
| 2 | LUONG, Paige K. | 4 | 27 | 17 | 6 | TIEU, May L. | 5 |
| 1 | MARINELLI, Ever | 1 | 28 | 17 | 0 | SUN, Laura C. | 4 |
| 2 | LUONG, Paige K. | 6 | 34 | 26 | 9 | GUO, Kaitlyn S. | 6 |
| 3 | FERDON, Danielle V. | 11 | 45 | 30 | 4 | TIEU, May L. | 5 |
| V45 | D30 |
Ref:
FADEL, ABBAS
Wisconsin
Ref: GASPARIN, Janos North TX
Ref: GASPARIN, Janos North TX
Table of 8, bout #3 of 4
| # | CFA Team | TS | Score | Score | TS | NWFC | # |
| 6 | MOORE, Allison | 0 | 0 | 5 | 5 | SUMMERS, Mariah | 3 |
| 5 | NOGUCHI, Julia C. | 8 | 8 | 8 | 3 | LAMPSON, Dolly C. | 1 |
| 4 | JIA, Jennifer | 1 | 9 | 14 | 6 | ABTIN, Aryana V. | 2 |
| 6 | MOORE, Allison | 5 | 14 | 19 | 5 | HAMBLETON, Nina M. | R |
| 4 | JIA, Jennifer | 0 | 14 | 22 | 3 | SUMMERS, Mariah | 3 |
| 5 | NOGUCHI, Julia C. | 5 | 19 | 22 | 0 | ABTIN, Aryana V. | 2 |
| R | TIAN, Tiffany | 4 | 23 | 26 | 4 | HAMBLETON, Nina M. | R |
| 6 | MOORE, Allison | 3 | 26 | 30 | 4 | ABTIN, Aryana V. | 2 |
| 5 | NOGUCHI, Julia C. | 3 | 29 | 35 | 5 | SUMMERS, Mariah | 3 |
| D29 | V35 |
Ref:
DELAP, Rylan
Alabama
Ref: DELGADO, Fernando Illinois
Ref: DELGADO, Fernando Illinois
Table of 8, bout #4 of 4
| # | Gutkovskiy Fencing Academy 1 | TS | Score | Score | TS | Gutkovskiy Fencing Academy 2 | # |
| 3 | POPKIN, Naomi T. | 5 | 5 | 1 | 1 | PARRIS, Briana C. | 6 |
| 1 | CHI, Cathy (Yucong) (Yucong) | 5 | 10 | 4 | 3 | KOO, Haley B. | 5 |
| 2 | GETS, Jessica | 2 | 12 | 8 | 4 | KASI, Anisha | 4 |
| 1 | CHI, Cathy (Yucong) (Yucong) | 3 | 15 | 11 | 3 | PARRIS, Briana C. | 6 |
| 3 | POPKIN, Naomi T. | 4 | 19 | 12 | 1 | KASI, Anisha | 4 |
| 2 | GETS, Jessica | 3 | 22 | 17 | 5 | KOO, Haley B. | 5 |
| R | LEE, Anna S. | 0 | 22 | 19 | 2 | KASI, Anisha | 4 |
| 2 | GETS, Jessica | 12 | 34 | 25 | 6 | LO, Ashley | R |
| 3 | POPKIN, Naomi T. | 6 | 40 | 31 | 6 | KOO, Haley B. | 5 |
| V40 | D31 |
Ref:
BALOG, Marcus
Virginia
Ref: CHANG, Jason Central CA
Ref: CHANG, Jason Central CA
Semi-Finals, bout #1 of 2
| # | SFFC | TS | Score | Score | TS | FAW | # |
| 6 | HERMAN, Miya J. | 2 | 2 | 5 | 5 | BINDER, Sylvie A. | 3 |
| 5 | LUONG, Paige K. | 3 | 5 | 10 | 5 | CARMINUCCI, Joanne M. | 1 |
| 4 | MARINELLI, Ever | 1 | 6 | 15 | 5 | MAGERAS, Finnula | 2 |
| 6 | HERMAN, Miya J. | 1 | 7 | 20 | 5 | CARMINUCCI, Joanne M. | 1 |
| 4 | MARINELLI, Ever | 2 | 9 | 25 | 5 | BINDER, Sylvie A. | 3 |
| 5 | LUONG, Paige K. | 2 | 11 | 30 | 5 | MAGERAS, Finnula | 2 |
| 4 | MARINELLI, Ever | 2 | 13 | 35 | 5 | CARMINUCCI, Joanne M. | 1 |
| 6 | HERMAN, Miya J. | 0 | 13 | 40 | 5 | MAGERAS, Finnula | 2 |
| 5 | LUONG, Paige K. | 2 | 15 | 45 | 5 | BINDER, Sylvie A. | 3 |
| D15 | V45 |
Ref:
BONTEMS, Pierre-Olivier
CAN
Ref: FADEL, ABBAS Wisconsin
Ref: FADEL, ABBAS Wisconsin
Semi-Finals, bout #2 of 2
| # | Gutkovskiy Fencing Academy 1 | TS | Score | Score | TS | NWFC | # |
| 3 | POPKIN, Naomi T. | 5 | 5 | 3 | 3 | ABTIN, Aryana V. | 6 |
| 1 | CHI, Cathy (Yucong) (Yucong) | 2 | 7 | 10 | 7 | SUMMERS, Mariah | 5 |
| 2 | GETS, Jessica | 5 | 12 | 15 | 5 | LAMPSON, Dolly C. | 4 |
| 1 | CHI, Cathy (Yucong) (Yucong) | 2 | 14 | 20 | 5 | ABTIN, Aryana V. | 6 |
| 3 | POPKIN, Naomi T. | 1 | 15 | 25 | 5 | LAMPSON, Dolly C. | 4 |
| 2 | GETS, Jessica | 0 | 15 | 30 | 5 | SUMMERS, Mariah | 5 |
| 1 | CHI, Cathy (Yucong) (Yucong) | 5 | 20 | 35 | 5 | HAMBLETON, Nina M. | R |
| 2 | GETS, Jessica | 1 | 21 | 40 | 5 | ABTIN, Aryana V. | 6 |
| 3 | POPKIN, Naomi T. | 3 | 24 | 45 | 5 | SUMMERS, Mariah | 5 |
| D24 | V45 |
Ref:
GRITSAEV, Sergei
Utah-S.Idaho
Ref: BALOG, Marcus Virginia
Ref: BALOG, Marcus Virginia
Finals, bout #1 of 1
| # | NWFC | TS | Score | Score | TS | FAW | # |
| 6 | ABTIN, Aryana V. | 5 | 5 | 4 | 4 | BINDER, Sylvie A. | 3 |
| 5 | SUMMERS, Mariah | 5 | 10 | 7 | 3 | CARMINUCCI, Joanne M. | 1 |
| 4 | LAMPSON, Dolly C. | 1 | 11 | 15 | 8 | MAGERAS, Finnula | 2 |
| 6 | ABTIN, Aryana V. | 5 | 16 | 20 | 5 | CARMINUCCI, Joanne M. | 1 |
| R | HAMBLETON, Nina M. | 0 | 16 | 25 | 5 | BINDER, Sylvie A. | 3 |
| 5 | SUMMERS, Mariah | 5 | 21 | 29 | 4 | MAGERAS, Finnula | 2 |
| R | HAMBLETON, Nina M. | 1 | 22 | 35 | 6 | CARMINUCCI, Joanne M. | 1 |
| 6 | ABTIN, Aryana V. | 6 | 28 | 40 | 5 | MAGERAS, Finnula | 2 |
| 5 | SUMMERS, Mariah | 6 | 34 | 45 | 5 | BINDER, Sylvie A. | 3 |
| D34 | V45 |
Ref:
GASPARIN, Janos
North TX
Ref: BALOG, Marcus Virginia
Ref: CHANG, Jason Central CA
Ref: BALOG, Marcus Virginia
Ref: CHANG, Jason Central CA
Fence-off for Third, bout #1 of 1
| # | Gutkovskiy Fencing Academy 1 | TS | Score | Score | TS | SFFC | # |
| 3 | POPKIN, Naomi T. | 1 | 1 | 4 | 4 | LUONG, Paige K. | 6 |
| 1 | CHI, Cathy (Yucong) (Yucong) | 0 | 1 | 10 | 6 | FERDON, Danielle V. | 5 |
| 2 | GETS, Jessica | 8 | 9 | 13 | 3 | MARINELLI, Ever | 4 |
| 1 | CHI, Cathy (Yucong) (Yucong) | 3 | 12 | 17 | 4 | LUONG, Paige K. | 6 |
| 3 | POPKIN, Naomi T. | 5 | 17 | 25 | 8 | MARINELLI, Ever | 4 |
| 2 | GETS, Jessica | 3 | 20 | 30 | 5 | FERDON, Danielle V. | 5 |
| R | LEE, Anna S. | 8 | 28 | 34 | 4 | MARINELLI, Ever | 4 |
| 2 | GETS, Jessica | 4 | 32 | 39 | 5 | LUONG, Paige K. | 6 |
| 3 | POPKIN, Naomi T. | 7 | 39 | 45 | 6 | FERDON, Danielle V. | 5 |
| D39 | V45 |
Ref:
GRITSAEV, Sergei
Utah-S.Idaho
Ref: BONTEMS, Pierre-Olivier CAN
Ref: FADEL, ABBAS Wisconsin
Ref: BONTEMS, Pierre-Olivier CAN
Ref: FADEL, ABBAS Wisconsin
The status of National Collegiate Athletic Association Student Athletes competing in USFA tournaments during the academic year is unaffected by listing their school affiliation or as being "Unattached". The information presented here is used solely to comply with fencing rule o.13 so that conflicts are avoided.
Final Results
Event finished at 6:05 PM
| Place | Name | Club(s) | Division | Country | Members |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | FAW | FAW | West-Rock | USA | Binder, Mageras, Peters, Carminucci |
| 2 | NWFC | NWFC | Oregon | USA | Abtin, Hambleton, Lampson, Summers |
| 3 | SFFC | SANFRANFC | Northern CA | USA | Ferdon, Herman, Luong, Marinelli |
| 4 | Gutkovskiy Fencing Academy 1 | GUTKOVSKIY | New Jersey | USA | Chi, Gets, Lee, Popkin |
| 5 | Premier Fencing Club | PREMIERFC | New Jersey | USA | Guo, Sun, Tieu, Tieu |
| 6 | CFA Team | CFA (CA) | Central CA | USA | Jia, Moore, Noguchi, Tian |
| 7 | Gutkovskiy Fencing Academy 2 | GUTKOVSKIY | New Jersey | USA | Kasi, Koo, Lo, Parris |
| 8 | Rochester Fencing Club | RCHSTER | Western NY | USA | Kiriakidi, Ross, Urban-Spillane |
| 9 | Richmond Fencing Club | RCHMOND | Virginia | USA | Bowman, Maurer, Sanders |
| 10 | Mission | MISSION F.C. | Long Island | USA | Obedin, O'Brien, Zhang |
| 11 | Wallingford-Swarthmore Panthers Fencing Club | PANTHERS | Philadelphia | USA | Ranson, Ward, Wilson |
| 12 | Hills Women's Foil | H3 | Long Island | USA | Abbott, Alpy, Bromberg, Cramer |
*Earned classifications are not official until recorded by the National Office.
The status of National Collegiate Athletic Association Student Athletes competing in USFA tournaments during the academic year is unaffected by listing their school affiliation or as being "Unattached". The information presented here is used solely to comply with fencing rule o.13 so that conflicts are avoided.